how will you carry your water

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Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on January 26, 2012 at 19:33

I have a portable water purifier which I can pump water through.  In goes the bad water and out goes the good.  It even takes out the bacteria.  If your packing out on foot each adult can carry 50 pounds in a proper backpack.  You can get by on less water than 2 liters.....if you are planning to make it a three day pack.  If the pack-out lasts more than three days then you would have to find a water source.  If you are planning a bug-out for emergencies, you should have a plan for a route and alternative route.  If possible, plan the route to include water sources.  Be sure to have a firearm and...of course a good field knife.

If the terrain will permit, I would have a two wheel cart much like a rickshaw.  If your wanting to keep a low profile through areas of uncertain water sources, then packing the needed water will be a must.  In cities with water towers the water will still work as it is fed by gravitation.  So any outside faucet should have water. 

Permalink Reply by Ron James on January 26, 2012 at 23:14

Water is the biggest problem for me. My retreat has a well, but a bad one. Goes dry at times, even in the wet season.

I have some 275 gallon containers that I can store water in, and if I build something else on the property, I'm going to install a 5000 gallon storage container.

NOW........ for bugging out.. I have been in survival for over 30 years and have a ton of stuff.. I have several water filters, solar stills, small containers, camel baks, canteens, a lot of other stuff,,, and something I have been working on, and planning on getting a patent if it works out. It's one of those why didn't I think of that things. Something really simple and easy to make for anyone, but I want to have them professionally made, and maybe make a couple dollars if I'm lucky.

Coffee filters are great to have to filter water before boiling, or running thru your regular filter. They take out a lot of dirt and other stuff.  I even use coffee filters to filter my gas when I'm filling my generator. You would be surprised what you will see as far as trash that would otherwise go into the tank.

Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on January 27, 2012 at 8:59

Ron....

I have a good friend who has a cabin tucked away in the southern New Mexico mountains.  His well gets about 25 gallons of water a day.  So anyone can see this is not enough water for him and his wife.  I have another friend....yes I have two....who lives in northern New Mexico along I-40 who has to haul water every week or two.  A good well is worth a great deal if your in a situation on Dec. 22, 2012. 

I am sure Ron, you have checked into books such as "SAS, Urban Survival Handbook and surprisingly enough The Zombie Survival Guide written  by Max Brooks in 2003 is full of good ideas.  It never hurts to read up on survival from various books if nothing else to stimulate your own "custom to your situation" ideas.  I grew up hunting, trapping, fishing and generally living outdoors in all kinds of environment and loved every moment.  I believe because I grew up this way is why I survived over two years in the Kosovo conflict and over two years in the Iraqi Freedom war where I worked training the local national's police.

My point is, one needs to be ready for the unthinkable and un-believeable when it happens.  The basics are shelter, food, water, security and a way to keep these things.  Your idea for a survival gear product is coming at a good time.  Good luck with this project.

Permalink Reply by Ron James on January 27, 2012 at 12:20

Having studied 2012 under the great masters of the subject, I can tall anyone, 2012 (if its real) will not happen on one day. It will build up to it, hit the high spot, then wind back down. And Dec 21 to me it not set in stone. Such as, if something were going to happen in 2013, we might not start a 2013 calendar, which does not mean the day of disaster will be Jan 1 2013, but someday during the year.

They did not start a calendar for the next age, maybe because they wanted to be in the new age before starting it, the calendar maker died, they discovered beer, or for whatever reason. 

Books,,, I have read a lot of them, and have done reviews on the better ones that I have read. A good library is a must. I have kept close to 30 of the ones I feel will be the most valuable to me.

Speaking of 2012, it's interesting that civilizations that had no interaction with each other, all predicted or described the same events for about the same period. Earthquakes, floods, solar activity,  starvation, plagues etc. 

I'm rather leaning to the idea, that it's not prophecy, but historical records of their past, that allows them to warn us of what's coming in our future. Just like if it does, we will warn people 3600 years in our future. And they, just like most today, will scoff and go about their own business while a few like us will take a closer look.

Remember the old saying.  "If I'm wrong, I can eat my mistake, if your wrong, what will you eat"?  Generally when I say this, people tell me their coming to my place. And generally, they don't like my reply back.

All the best. Yell if you need anything.

 

Permalink Reply by Clint Thompson on January 27, 2012 at 14:50

Ron....

A good write by you and interesting for sure.  Thanks for your thoughts and insight.

Permalink Reply by Ron"TUNA"Dumeah on January 28, 2012 at 18:44

Great info guys, In my search to the answer to this problem in the last week. I found a great little device called " The Lifestraw".  It is a personal filtering device. I will be ordering one for trials this week. I dont think you can ever be as prepared as you want to be. Look what happened in China. I will at least be ready to give my family a fighting chance. If we have to stand our ground or run like hell.  

Permalink Reply by Ron"TUNA"Dumeah on January 28, 2012 at 18:45

Thanks Clint.

Clint Thompson said:

Ron....

A good write by you and interesting for sure.  Thanks for your thoughts and insight.

Permalink Reply by Pat ChoKo on February 11, 2012 at 11:12

I have a really nice pack that has a 2 liter hydration system built in. I always carry that when I go on my walks/hunts. I also always carry water purification tablets with me in case I ever need to refill from an impure source like a creek or something.

I bought the pack for hunting, but it's also becoming my bug out bag. When I'm hunting, I can carry all my essential gear. A tarp, trash bags, bone saw, rope, survival kit, etc. It's MOLLE compatible, so I strap both of my knives to it; my bigger knife on the back and my smaller knife on my left shoulder strap. I also have my pistol in one of the pockets. That way, when I'm ready to set up and shoot, I can drop the pack and it's just me and my bow or rifle and nothing is throwing me off balance.

Even with all the gear listed above, it still has a LOT of room for more stuff. I can even carry a small backpacker's tent in it... and it still has more room. I even strapped my arrow quiver to it.

Permalink Reply by Ron"TUNA"Dumeah on February 11, 2012 at 16:09

Wow you can do allot with that! Going to have to check that out.

Pat ChoKo said:

I have a really nice pack that has a 2 liter hydration system built in. I always carry that when I go on my walks/hunts. I also always carry water purification tablets with me in case I ever need to refill from an impure source like a creek or something.

I bought the pack for hunting, but it's also becoming my bug out bag. When I'm hunting, I can carry all my essential gear. A tarp, trash bags, bone saw, rope, survival kit, etc. It's MOLLE compatible, so I strap both of my knives to it; my bigger knife on the back and my smaller knife on my left shoulder strap. I also have my pistol in one of the pockets. That way, when I'm ready to set up and shoot, I can drop the pack and it's just me and my bow or rifle and nothing is throwing me off balance.

Even with all the gear listed above, it still has a LOT of room for more stuff. I can even carry a small backpacker's tent in it... and it still has more room. I even strapped my arrow quiver to it.

Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on February 11, 2012 at 16:12

Pat,

Can you give us a link to check out that pack?

Permalink Reply by Ron"TUNA"Dumeah on February 11, 2012 at 18:21

http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/lifestraw have you seen this?

Permalink Reply by Pat ChoKo on February 12, 2012 at 0:30

It's this one: http://www.fieldline.com/Products/ultimate-hunters-2-day-pack/8

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